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Freethought & Religion
We’re going to have to figure out some way to combat his gifted way with words.
Is it even possible? Should we just give up? Maybe Islam really is the one true religion. I’m thinking of converting. Maybe you should too.
I was wondering if the Out of Body Experiences, Near Death Experiences and Spiritual Experiences associated with the God Module might also happen in our sleep: particularly while dreaming.
Rational integrity assumes you know the difference between an opinion and a fact. If you don’t know the difference . . . how do you know what you know? Let’s leave certainty to the believers.
Whoever you are, mystery person, I would appreciate it if, the next time you visit my site, you comment on a post or send me an email to identify yourself. I am REALLY curious to know who you are.
The greatest believers are the greatest tyrants. If the freedom rather than the tyranny of faith is to better the world, then the betterment lies in the hands of the unbelievers. I take my stand with them.
Most atheists are reasonably grounded in logic and there’s no chance in hell they’ll ever renounce logic in favor of superstition — not even for an 11th-hour, or death-bed, conversion.
Occam’s Razor suggests a creator God is less likely than no creator Got at all but it doesn’t rule out the possibility. The fact is, we still don’t know how (or if) the universe began.
As much as we hear about U.S. Christians pushing I.D. in public schools and building multi-million dollar creation-themed parks, it’s good to be reminded that people know which side their toast is buttered on.
Either God is the source of morality or he isn’t. Even a believer, if he’s honest with himself, must admit that if God’s morality grows outdated, it was never perfect and timeless to begin with.
It’s easy to understand the allure of an objective moral system. It offers a simple way to resolve complex issues. And it makes it easy to judge others with the self-righteousness of certainty.
Existence . . . whether it’s God’s, the universe’s or ours — is an ineffable mystery; the greatest mystery of all. Certainty is an illusion and a claim that science is careful to avoid.
All you have to do is love and care. Whether it’s friends, family or strangers; you grow, personally, when you love. And you don’t need God for that.
We need to keep in mind that the source of Islam is Allah and that we only know him via the Quran. And in the Quran, Allah repeatedly makes it abundantly clear that if you shirk the battle for Jihad, you’re a scum-ball in his omniscient eyes.
There are some really good points covered: particularly the secular nature of our constitution and the the break it represents from the divine authority previously assumed by governments.
The brevity of life doesn’t bother me either. It’s nature’s way of telling me to enjoy myself or achieve something or help somebody in need. If death is the end of everything, then living is everything.
The religious/legal/political ideology of Islam needs to be reformed before change (much less, peace) can come. The first thing that needs to change is the subjugation of women.
If there is a God, does anybody really think we can hoodwink him into thinking we believe in him when we don’t? Making any concession to God AND thinking you can fool him is just plain nuts.
Maybe intelligence PRECEDED the universe. After all, information was structured into the universe from the beginning – not a billion years later.
The Quran weaves Jihad against infidels inextricably into the fabric of Islam. It is more than a tenet of belief, it’s the moral responsibility of all Muslims. The terrorists ARE following the Quran. Islam is a rabid dogma.
If Jesus was right about judging a tree by its fruit, then it can be fairly asserted that the Abrahamic religions have been the most persistently divisive influence in the history of mankind.
By overruling biblical morality, we decide what is religiously worthy. WE decide what is religious: so, why do we need religion in the first place?
It seems that temporal lobe epilepsy creates electrical storms in the brain that stimulates an adjacent area (now identified as the God Module). Many of these epileptics are hyper-religious.
Most people believe that dictionaries define words for us. But it’s the other way around. We, by our actual usage of words, tell dictionary lexicographers how to define them.
Traditionally, any priest could perform exorcisms to cast the Devil out of a possessed person but 3 years ago the Vatican decreed that such purging should be left to professional exorcists.
Politics & Philosophy
My idea of morality separates moral issues from other kinds of issues: humanitarian issues, political issues, environmental issues, legal issues, health and dietary issues, religious, ethnic or racial issues, or whatever
Craig rebutted with a scholarly evisceration of Harris’ premise that cited: the absence of moral objectivity in atheism; the subjectivity of human flourishing; the is/ought distinction; and more.
Human purpose and causality are both observable facts. They must, therefore, be compatible. Hard determinists simply side-step the philosophical challenge with false dichotomies.
Self-aware and time-aware mental feedback is transformative: that’s where the complimentary properties of causality and human intelligence interact . . . where self-determinism emerges.
Skyscrapers, dams, dikes, highways . . . ALL technology serve human purposes — NOT causality’s (because causality has none). They are products of human intelligence interacting with causality.
The claim that free will (a.k.a. intent, purpose, self-determinism) contradicts or violates causality is a false dichotomy. It’s not a choice of one or the other: causality or free will. There are other possibilities
Capitalism is an essentially flawed system because human beings are essentially flawed. And it can’t be fixed until people care more about others than for themselves. In other words: it can’t be fixed
I hope to convince you that, because of intelligent feedback, self-determinism can explain our ability to manipulate events (purpose): not despite causality but, rather, because of it.
They’ve been arguing in circles because they’ve defined “free will” to fit their premises. This is because they didn’t know anything about the brain: not even its electro-chemical characteristics.
Free will and reason are both deterministic neurological processes at the microscopic level. You can’t deny free will, then turn around and embrace reason.
If all religions, nations, people, species, lifestyles, etc., are equal and to be included, then values become, in effect, relative.
Anticipation is not an ephemeral wisp that flits through the mind and is gone. We mentally revisit our plans to revise or adjust them as needed. This is one of many forms of feedback our brains routinely perform.
Our destinies are not written in the stars (may the force be with you). We might eventually face extinction as the universe grows cold and fades away but our individual destinies are ours to make.
Among us atheists, of course, religious fundamentalism is ruled out, so absolute certainty in atheists most often seems to conceal over-confidence or intransigence or (more likely) both.
I understand that liberals want to be inclusive. And that’s normally a good thing. But inclusion should not be a goal for its own sake. All considerations need to be addressed.
If something is good because God wills it, does He have a reason? If so, then good is independent of God. If He has no reason, then good is arbitrary and whimsical.
Begging the question: we’re all familiar with this circular form of reasoning. Christians and Muslims can elevate this recursive “logic” to an infinite regression if you give them half a chance
Jews are ridiculously over-represented in Nobel prizes. Does this mean the Nobel committee should withhold future prizes to Jews? Of course not! Jewish excellence in science benefits us all.
Mental feedback gives us a virtual, temporal, advantage over causality by allowing us to anticipate it and plan for the future accordingly. THAT is the determinism in self-determinism.
Because we all live as if we have free will, we affirm it in the things we say and do. When we take credit for our actions or blame others for theirs, we’re paying lip service to free will.
Science & Technology
Teams of physicists from the U of C and the Tokyo Institute of Technology have independently demonstrated that a squeezed vacuum can be stored for some time and retrieved when needed.
If you value freedom and hate censorship, let Google & YouTube know that you will not tolerate our inalienable rights taken away so cavalierly. They’re establishing a history of cowardice that will come back to bite them on the ass.
Dr. R. G. Sachs, with whom I discussed the empirical law of epistemology, called it an article of faith . . . and it is surely that. However, what he called our article of faith can be well supported by actual examples.
I’m not even asking you to believe in any kind of crazy new physics. All you need for a level I multiverse is an infinite universe—go far enough out and you will find another Earth with another version of yourself.
Google+ can require our real names for their internal records but they do not need to display our real names against our will.
Sagan thinks we might be recalling this embryonic period when we describe feeling “at one with the universe” during a spiritual experience, out-of-body experience or near-death experience.
Martin Azua, of Spain, has come up with an eco-friendly way to dispose of your corporeal remains after you die. He is marketing his design as the Bios Urn.
The fact that we humans have been able to understand so much about how the natural world works, in our incredibly limited region of space over a remarkably short period of time, is a triumph of the human spirit.
Scientists have stopped light in its tracks in two landmark experiments. In doing so they have overcome a fundamental obstacle to the development of quantum computers.
Looking at fires when high, by the way, especially through one of those prism kaleidoscopes which image their surroundings, is an extraordinarily moving and beautiful experience.